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New Damage System =(

I personally dont like the new damage system...

The messages on the bottom are a good idea, but they come and go so quickly and there is no way to re-read them.

The new Damage slowdown thing is just outright annoying...

Here's what happens to me:

1) I get hit by an Uber.
2) My screen turns bright red and i cant see how much damage i took or my life left, and when i try to move anywhere i dont go anywhere.
3) By the time i can see again, I get whacked a 2nd time and the process repeats.

Also, when drowning underwater, once u start to take the 1 damage it is near impossible to climb back out.

Hopefully in a future patch the slow-down will only occur on high damage hits, and that the massive Red Flash will be reduced.

Anyone else agree?

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interesting thread

please post comments

However when you think about it, the slowdown thing should have been around since the very beginning... I dunno why we never thought of it before

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problem with the slow down thing.

If you get damaged because you were under water too long you slow down and it becomes very hard to get out. very very hard. My reccomendation is to make it not slow you down if the damage type is water.

Another comment. Can you make the bottom damage message multiple lines. Lets say 5. This way you will see all the messages.

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could the damage messages be changed back? cause like if you get pk'ed by someone you won't know who it was... (ex. I am in in orc mimic and tzu transports to jaten and I beam tzu dead and tzu doesn't know who killed him and this happens over and over...) and messages fly by so quickly you can't read em. and you block your vision with damage messages...

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also... say your chasing after someone you want to pk... you fly after them with windwalkers and happen to hit yourself for one point of damage... you get slowed down and whoever your are pursuing ends up escaping cause you ended up getting slowed down for just getting a tiny scratch of 1 damage... could this be fixed? it gets real annoying getting slowed down due to extremly minor damage... (when you got 1,000+ hp 1 damage is so unnoticable it's like nothing happened...)

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This is why I hate Counter-Strike...

Anyway, I agree for high-damage hits, perhaps a certain percentage of your total HP in one blow will do a slow down and a big red flash.

I have noticed that when fighting, you can't do any #w's or Tab-Status lookups anymore, which is quite annoying.

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I agree, the damage at the bottom of the screen also only lets you see damage to 1 Bot/player if you are useing an explosive spell, usealy it gives damage you do to yourself if you are in the blast radius. The previouse system would let you see who you've damaged, and you can ask a friend to leave if you are hiting him/her. The slowdown is realy anoying to because it not only slows you down with 1 point of damage, it also sometimes slows you down when you are missed, prebenting your escape dispite not takeing any damage. Please return the damage messages to the top chat box.

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The slowdown effect should only occur when mabye being hit for a % of your hp.

cause think about it... would a papercut stop a level 101 player?

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MR has a HP max proportional red flash, expmple, a new character will get a heavy flash from five damage, but someone with 3k HP wont notice a 100 point hit, maybe this could be applied to the slowdown?

i havent seen this slowdown personally, but i think my idea would work for you guys. its jsut a single multiplication factor.

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ok i agree with making it a percentage of the hp, but what the hell is this bottom damage screen thing?? do i have alzheimers or something?

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Originally posted by JeremyIrons
ok i agree with making it a percentage of the hp, but what the hell is this bottom damage screen thing?? do i have alzheimers or something?

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hrm mabye only B&N put that in...

and no you don't have alzheimers

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quote:

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ok i agree with making it a percentage of the hp, but what the hell is this bottom damage screen thing?? do i have alzheimers or something?

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Alzheimers is a bad thing for a coder to have.

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Its a bad thing for anyone..


And that slowdown thing really sucks while trying to make a quest, even if its runts hitting you you can't fly up

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do you people use the traditional RPGhud?

heh and what are you doing in uberzone if you cant handle it
and why walk when you can take a boat :P

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what if i came out with 5.006 or something, without the new map etc, but with a progressive slow-down thing.

The higher the damage, the more you get slown down. For example, if you get hit for 50% of your HP, you will switch to armor4 i believe

I think only rpg coders will understand what i mean...

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hey JI, check out the general discussions forum

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If less than 20% damage, don't even bother with a slowdown...

BTW, alzheimers isn't always bad... You can save money on reading material...just use one newspaper.

Even better, wrap your own Christmas Presents!

No worries though, the screwed up dmg reporting is a binkers only thing.

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quote:

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Originally posted by JeremyIrons
what if i came out with 5.006 or something, without the new map etc, but with a progressive slow-down thing.

The higher the damage, the more you get slown down. For example, if you get hit for 50% of your HP, you will switch to armor4 i believe

I think only rpg coders will understand what i mean...

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